P2 Button Replacement

[LEDluvr]

It's the darndest thing, I have a gold P2 ( I know - we need to document the the serial number? ), nothing out of the ordinary.
Anyway, it's been sittng around sans batteries and I was admiring it when I noticed the button was sunk in. I opened it up and the button and the plate holding it in fell off!

How do I get the bugger back on - as it's gold filled. Regular solder won't stick, right? Perhaps I could use the same 5 min. expoxy that some use to stick on a new crystal?
Would that hold up under repeated button pushing??

[retroleds]

Mike, you can use epoxy to do that repair. But I am curious, you say "plate", usually it is a "cap". A "plate" is usually found on solid gold pieces. You case doesn't have four squares inside of it that the module sits on does it?

[smokefrog]

ed, are you hinting that it may be solid gold?


Good luck

Gus

[LEDluvr]

Hi Ed n' Smokefrog,

thanks or your input.
I looked at Smokefrog's pic in the other thread and...... no luck.
I think it's just a 'palin old' gold filled model. The caseback says 14k goldfilled (it is supposed to be the original caseback but you never know) and the inside has a built in ring around the inside 2 for the screw holes, not the little risers for the screw holes. And you can't see the back side of the Pulsar imprint on the inside of the case. Sooo... me-thinks it's really a gold filled model. The clasp is a Champion model and the date on it is 11-72! Making it my oldest Pulsar!
Actually, my oldest LED period.

Maybe that is why it has a plate and not a cap to lock in the button- an early model?

Just to make sure before I start work on it, should the little "U" shaped 'spring' be placed in with the curve of the U facing outward to the bottom of the button and the tips of the U touching the plate?

[charger105]

Hi Ledluvr.
I'm pretty sure the U spring should face outward (with the two ends touching the plate)..........others can confirm this.

What I was going to suggest was that you make sure the button is in the correct way before glueing the plate on ! There are 2 ways it can go in. I put one of mine in the wrong way once, and it wouldn't activate the reed switch.

Rgds,
Andrew.

[LEDluvr]

Thanks for the tip Charger105, I didn't think it would make a difference what way I put the button in, as long as the curved end of the button was sticking out. I'll try it out before I seal it.
(This weekend time permitting.... )

[66Cooper]

Can you post any pictures of all this? Would like to see whats inside and what your button plate looks like.

[LEDluvr]

Hi 66Cooper; sure. I was so busy last weekend I didn't even start work on this. I'll take some pics of the watch in it's current state, and then post more pics once it's done.

[66Cooper]

Perfect!

[LEDluvr]

Okay - here are the pics of my gold-filled P2 - plate and all.






I propped up the plate so that you can see it's not a cap....

[66Cooper]

Awesome. Thanks a lot!

[LEDluvr]

No problem!

[retroleds]

Magnet/button direction for P2 and/or P3 models.
Command button - magnet is up, toward caseback notch.
Date button - magnet is down, toward setting indents

View pictures on page 22 of Pulsar Jeweler's manual second edition(available for free download here) - http://www.dwf.nu/Info/PulsarManual2ndEd.htm Open the link(.pdf) that says Pages 17-30, it will be the sixth page, entitled "Installing Module Shunt". The hole in the shunt is over the magnet(something they don't explain). Your button may look smooth on the back(inside) but it actually has a magnet pressed into it(some have a totally different magnet setup). Just look for a circle that has machining grain or coloration that is contrary to that on the button back.

Happy New Year to All. I've been a little scarce here lately but just a combination of nasty cold starting before Christmas, holidays, business as usual. How can I miss you if I don't go away?

[LEDluvr]

I see it now. So I line up the circle in the inside (flat side) of the button and align it with the circle imprint on the plate. And if I'm reading the picture correctly, the button should be installed so that the cirlce is on the 'lower side' of the case, closer to the Pulsar logo.

Thank you Ed for your expert advice!
I appreciate it.

[retroleds]

I see it now. So I line up the circle in the inside (flat side) of the button and align it with the circle imprint on the plate. And if I'm reading the picture correctly, the button should be installed so that the cirlce is on the 'lower side' of the case, closer to the Pulsar logo.

Thank you Ed for your expert advice!
I appreciate it.

Mike:
It doesn't matter which way the plate goes(that is not the same as a shunt).

But no, a time command button goes with the magnet AWAY from the logo, up. Look at the pictures again and remember you are looking from the back. The middle picture is for your P2(third picture would be for date command on P3). And look at the notch in the case for the caseback - it is at top of watch. The hole in the shunt roughly lays over the magnet, so when the too strong magnet gets close enough, some magnetism can still "leak" through that hole.

[LEDluvr]

Ahhh... got it now.
Thanks Ed.

You're welcome.....the devil is in the details. E.C.