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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post04 Mar 2022, 14:07

Hi,
Now this is what I may call an "old watchmaker" Space Age watches New Old Stock (NOS) collection, that I bought in the last time (please see the final photo at the end of the post! :-D) :
I. Three (3) Original Andre Le Marquand Spaceman 1972 ORIGINAL CORFAM straps, one in perfect condition (the ULTRA RARE Blue one!) and other 2 in fine/decent condition.
https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/spaceman-corfam-bands/
II. Two (2) Original Andre Le Marquand Spaceman NOS 1972 bezels (including an ULTRA RARE Golden one!!!), a golden bezel released only for some very limited editions of Andre LeMarquand 1972 Spaceman watches, e.g. such as those made for Hollywood stars... :mega:
III. An ULTRA RARE collection of Five (5) ORIGINAL and NOS 1972 Spaceman Internal bezels in 5 colors (out of 6 ever released - a red one is missing ): "1972. Spaceman The first oval model is called 'Spaceman' and is issued in six different colours" - https://doensen.home.xs4all.nl/c16.html
Links from my friend Ronny outstanding SPACEMAN website: :mega:
III.1. 1972 Spaceman Black https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/spaceman%e2%80%93oval-black/
III.2. 1972 Spaceman Blue https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/13/spaceman-oval-blue/
III.3. 1972 Spaceman Brown https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/spaceman-oval-brown/
III.4 1972 Spaceman Green https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/spaceman-oval-green/
III.5 1972 Spaceman White https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/spaceman-oval-white/
and the missing red one internal bezel (I still have 2 watches with red internal bezels, but not a spare red bezel)...
III.6 1972 Spaceman Red https://70swatchesgallery.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/spaceman-oval-red/
IV. Two (2) Original Spaceman 1972 Automatic watches (unfortunately one with a bad condition, yet original CORFAM strap)...
Spaceman_NOS_watchmaker1m.jpg

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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post04 Aug 2022, 10:37

WOW...this is something that I was not prepared for... :-D
I always knew that the Catena's/Andre Le Marquand Spaceman watches may have had some special designs/maybe limited editions (?) - usually with a ultra rare golden bezel/case, for example involving some 70s Hollywood stars of the moment, stars wishing also to celebrate the Moon landing and other Space Age moments... :-D
But I was certainly NOT prepared for a watch like the following one: :-D

It is an already RARE GOLDEN case - made by OCTO, woman Spaceman Audacieuse, started in 1974 - after a design of the famous Andre Le Marquand - more info here https://doensen.home.xs4all.nl/c16.html.
I bought it for my beautiful wife...since she has not yet a woman Andre Le Marquand Audacieuse Spaceman on her small collection of watches...

But what I DID NOT expected is this unique/particular design of the dial, hands and so on, as one may see below, since nothing similar was ever reported in the collector's ring: :mega:
1. First of all the golden dial is filling only about 2/3 of the watch face, the top 1/3 being some transparent background (transparent plastic as in Zodiac Astrographic mystery dial?) that includes even the 12 o'clock squared indice(s) - placed on that transparent background, and creating the impression that it is a "floating above a golden cave"... :-D
2. The hour and minute hands includes some transparent zones, to accentuate the whole "transparency" of the 1/3 top background
3. The "3D-like background" deep under the 1/3 upper "transparent" side of the dial (is it the watch caseback??? - I will know after I will give it to my skilled watchmaker :) ) is golden finished with some "deep golden lava CAVE" finish...creating an amazing view if You look at the watch as a "driver"...basically from the left hand sitting on a cars drive wheel... :mega:

Please look at below modest photos (I have tried hard to catch the feeling ones may have when they are looking at this really unique watch)

1. The unique golden Spaceman - 2/3 golden dial and 1/3 "transparent" dial, with 12 hour marker above the "transparent" side :mega:
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2. The partially "transparent" hours and minutes hands, "floating above" that "golden lava cave": :mega:
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3. And just to clarify what I've meant above:
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But the true question remains: Was it a VERY limited/unique GOLDEN edition - e.g. especially designed for some women stars of that moment in 70s, and made especially for that very special customers by OCTO???...only the time may be the answer eventually...but for certain, this Spaceman watch it is REALLY DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE compared to any other (I may say many :-D ) Spaceman Audacieuse watches I've seen before...thanks for reading this...
And I am glad to present here - on NewDWF and for the first time, this quite unique piece of Space Age watch history,
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An almost unique Space Age memorabilia.A real "piece of hist

Post08 Aug 2022, 11:50

Well...this is not a real wristwatch/pocket watch and so on...It is an EXTREMELY RARE Sicura Keyring watch...made to be given to Apollo 11 crew members!!! Basically, a REAL and SMALL PIECE OF HISTORY!!!

It was issued when Apollo 11 crew members have landed on the Moon in 1969 and given to the Apollo crew members (and a good question is : only to Apollo 11 crew members or even also to other Apollo missions members??? - the present knowledge would say only to Apollo 11 crew!) and to the former USA president Richard Nixon
, by Sicura Watch Company - and its "former pilot" CEO Ernest Schneider - the same who bought Breitling brand almost a decade later, to remember that "out of the World" achievement of the 1969 MOONLANDING... :mega:
...for a Sicura watch history, more info at...http://largevintagewatches.blogspot.com/2016/01/the-history-of-sicura-watch-brand.html

The item had a shape of the Apollo 11 MODULE and even a "conical" glass to emphasize the module's shape!!!
Image from https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4225/diagrams/apollo/apollo-diagram.htm
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Was it a real key ring "watch", who was REALLY given to the former Apollo 11 crew members???...YES it was :grin1: , as one may see below, on an auction site selling some Armstrong family memorabilia: :mega:
https://historical.ha.com/itm/explorers/space-exploration/apollo-11-small-rocket-shaped-clock-armstrong-collins-aldrin-20-vii-1969-directly-from-the-armstrong-family-collection-tm-ca/a/6206-50357.s

And the even the CAG certification that it was a valid Armstrong Family memorabilia (image from https://historical.ha.com ):
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Was it rare?:
It seems that ONLY ONE such SICURA key ring watches was sold ever - UNTIL NOW - outside the Armstrong's and/or other Apollo 11 astronauts families - and it was on an Italian Auction site:
https://www.lacasadellorologio.it/en/prod/sicura-gemini-apollo-xii-commemorativo-del-primo-sbarco-sulla-luna-xx-luglio-1969-rimanenza-di-magazzino/

And now my similar key ring watch...recently added to my small collection of the Space Age watches/memorabilia:
The key ring with the Apollo 11 module-like "shape":
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The 18 k gold bottom plate, remembering the date of the Moonlanding and its Apollo 11 crew members: :mega:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post06 Nov 2022, 17:15

Hi all,
it may look funny that one of the watches I have searched/waited for years to complete my collection of the Swiss/Western watch launched to celebrate Space Age achievements it is not a rare Hamilton Odyssee or a Zodiac Astrodigit etc etc, but a quite modest Camy Vostok - made by a Swiss/Western Watchmaker(!!!) and meant to celebrate Eastern/CCCP/COMMUNIST Space Race achievements!!! :grin1:
The brand (Camy) Vostok was registered in April 13, 1961, just a day after the Famous Vostok1/Gagarin Space Flight in April 12, 1961, followed at a short time by registration of the (Camy) SpaceShip brand in April 24, 1961!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1
Thus, an "educated guess" would be that the Camy Swiss watchmakers tried to avoid or - pure and simply - could not registered a brand on Gagarin name :grin1:, so they registered instead the Vostok brand (the name of the Gagarin's Spaceship was Vostok1!) and the SpaceShip brand... :mega:
It may worth mentioning that even the CCCP communist authorities also did not launched a watch with a Gagarin "brand", but instead they had established the Poljot (meaning Flight), and the ultra rare Orbita and Kosmos brands for the watches launched in 1961-1964 to celebrate in CCCP and in the Eastern Communist block that "out of the World" achievements of the First Man in Space!!!
:mega:

So here it is, my small (cca 32-33 mm case diameter - but it was quite usual in late 50's, early 60's) ALL Stainless Steel :mega: with a fluted golden bezel and a (Cosmos-like?) Black Dial Camy Vostok:
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It has a nice FHF ST/FHF 96 slightly modified movement, also with a nice "perlage" finish of the bridges, probably to underline the "importance" of this small watch made to celebrate a major step in the Space Race:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race
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And the caseback:
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Thus, this rare but -eventually- not very "spectacular" watch will finally complete my collection of the FIRST 3 Western/Swiss Made watches made between 1957-1961 to celebrate the CCCP/Eastern Communist Space Race achievements :grin1:, a watch series that very few watch collectors were aware of (and the good question is how many may have ALL of them? :-D ) :
1. The outstanding First Edition of the "asymmetric" Camy Sputnik with its very particular dial and the other rare early (cca 1958-1960) Camy Sputnik(s): :mega:
2. The above mentioned Camy Vostok
3. The Camy Spaceship
my other early Camy Sputnik(s) and Spaceship watches being presented in the following photo:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post14 Nov 2022, 09:42

Hi,
to let anyone really understand how fierce was the Space Race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Race, you have below a cover of the famous Time Magazine from December 6, 1968, in a number debating who will be the first human on the moon (USA astronauts or CCCP cosmonauts):
Because communist CCCP Space Program have beaten already the USA/NASA Space Program in at least 3 major achievements during 50s-60s decade:
1. First Space Satellite - Sputnik 1957
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1
2. First Man in Space - Gagarin 1961
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vostok_1
3. First Spacewalk - Alexei Leonov - 1965
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_2
So it was no surprise that even Western/Swiss watch companies - such as Swiss Camy watches presented above - have celebrated that Communist/Space Race achievements in early-mid 60s :grin1:
The image from Time Magazine, December 6, 1968:
Image from http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19681206,00.html
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But finally, after the outstanding 1962 JF Kennedy speech - "We choose to go to the Moon", the NASA have done it...MOONLANDING in July 1969, during Apollo 11 mission :mega:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_choose_to_go_to_the_Moon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11
So, once again, this is the ultra rare Sicura watch was made and meant - straight and simple - to celebrate that outstanding achievement of Moonlanding and also given to the Apollo 11 astronauts - in other words, a genius "marketing" approach from Sicura's CEO "former pilot" Ernest Schneider , because all others Western watches that may celebrate Moonlanding are not strictly related to the NASA, Apollo 11 astronauts etc involved in the first Moonlanding process- with the noteworthy and OUTSTANDING exception of the Omega ads about the watch which WAS REALLY on the MOON with Apollo 11 crew :mega: - the famous Omega Speedmaster : :grin1:
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And a 1969 Omega Speedmaster Paper Ads - THE MOON WATCH!:
Image of a The Daily Telegraph ads from July 22nd 1969 from worthpoint.com:
https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images3/360/0415/02/omega-speedmaster-moon-watch-advert_360_b3c945236b39d94c2a5f73f3b3ac908c.jpg
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post17 Nov 2022, 13:20

Hi,

as I have already told you above in this thread, I may have in my collection some "missing links" between various rare but "regular" CATENA Spaceman watches, by the means of some ULTRA RARE 70s Catena (prototypes?) watches.
:mega:
And one of them is the one presented below:
A PROTOTYPE Catena Spaceman cca 1973-1975 watch - A watch with the Catena name on the dial, but wrote with the very special "Spaceman characters/font", having:
i) The Catena Spaceman logo, beyond the special Catena name with Spaceman fonts
ii) The Catena Spaceman logo on the crown, only found later and only on the Catena Spacial watches :grin1:
iii) AS 2066 automatic movement with day/date, found on some Catena Spaceman 1972 watches and some Catena Spaceman Audacieuse watches- 1974
iv) A Full Stainless Steel case with an UFO-like design
v) No "regular" serial number, even if it has the Catena name on the inner caseback etc :mega:
I bought it from outside EU in a quite bad shape, but my skilled watchmakers have fully restored it, after a complete revision and a SS case restoration:
The watch in its initial state - one may see the Special Catena fonts and the Spaceman logo on the dial:
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The watch in its initial state - the caseback stating its full SS case:

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It has the same Catena name with the Special fonts + Catena Spaceman logo as other Catena prototypes I may have, such as the one presented below, a Catena with Spaceman logo but with alarm:
http://newdwf.com/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8079&start=44#p54307
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Thus, basically it may be the missing link between Catena Spaceman 1972 watches and the later Catena Spacial and Catena Spaceman Reissues, presented at Basel Fair in 2010: :mega:
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And below is the above presented watch after the restoration process at my skilled watchmaker. One may see the original/restored "brushed" finish of the watch case and the original/restored "glossy" finish of the SS bezel: :mega:
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post22 Nov 2022, 05:22

cybr wrote:Because we're talking here about the watch makers inspired by SF (E.g. Star Wars) movies, how about this 1977 Texas Instruments (Star Wars related NOT inspired) watch?
vintage_TI_starwars.jpg

the photo came from http://www.flickriver.com/photos/tags/v ... teresting/

As one may read at the below URL, during late 70's, TI was forced by the market trends to reduce drastically the price for their LED/digital watches and finally to quit the watch market in 1981, as one may red at
http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/company/his ... atches.htm

So, the above watch is probably a try to enhance TI selling in 1977/1978, using the (unexpected?!?) success of the first Star Wars movie :grin1:
More information about such TI wathes on the excellent Piotr's CrazyWatches.pl website:
http://www.crazywatches.pl/texas-instru ... s-led-1977

Regards,

Wow, really enjoyed this thread(former/previous site owner here). I agree that many factors inspired the Space watches. The bulbous cathode ray tubes of teh electronic gear and home tvs, the bulbous heads of the prposed aliens, the bulbous spacesuits. Much like the WIttnaeur "DOctor" model, which is NOT a factory designation, just something the public hit upon because the face is shaped like an old-school screen for a x-ray machine.
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Re: Spaceman watches inspired from Space Oddysey and Star Wa

Post22 Nov 2022, 13:56

Hi Ed,
Really honored to have you here on this thread...as the "former/previous site owner here" and as one of the biggest experts about the digital watch history...I've learned a lot from Your posts on this forum...Many Thanks... :Prost:
What I really don't get it is this ...are You really "ironic" here, following probably my response to the thread http://newdwf.com/viewtopic.php?f=82&t=9023#p55867 or just tried to support the advanced online searching I am trying hard to provide here (yes, with a bit of "history spice") about the Space Age watches - digital or not - on this forum??? :-D

So, please let me know about Your real intent...regarding the above post of yours... :Prost:
With deep respect for all your contributions to the watch collectors community and kind regards,
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