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Post13 Oct 2011, 14:09

Isn't it funny how the visually bigger TC is only marginally lighter than the Constellation? That bigger movement only weighs about .7 g more than the smaller 1602 module. So what one gained externally, the other gained internally. :roll:
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Post14 Oct 2011, 23:08

bucko170 wrote:1603 wanted? see Abe's site......http://www.timetrafficker.com/watches/l ... index.html


Thanks. Managed to find an SS one in good condition in Belgium. I'll post pictures when it arrives.
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Post14 Oct 2011, 23:27

i hope you paid a bit less then the asking price..been following that one for months..it's around my corner :-)
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Post15 Oct 2011, 23:38

kasper wrote:i hope you paid a bit less then the asking price..been following that one for months..it's around my corner :-)


Hi it cost me a bit more than I wanted to pay. Let hope its worth it!

What would you say is a reasonable price for a 1603 SS in a good condition?
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Post16 Oct 2011, 00:32

Ade51 wrote:What would you say is a reasonable price for a 1603 SS in a good condition?


EUR 550 + EUR 15 for the postage ;-)

Seriously though if you are happy with your purchase it's a good price!
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Post16 Oct 2011, 02:51

It looks like someone's getting a little bit excited about getting a shiny new watch. :-)

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Post16 Oct 2011, 11:43

abem wrote:It looks like someone's getting a little bit excited about getting a shiny new watch. :-)

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Very :lol: Been waiting for one in Europe to come available for a while so as to avoid import duties.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 15:32

Well its arrived this afternoon and will post photos shortly. I must say that it looks much better than the photos on Ebay. Only had chance to set the time but noticed when you pressed the recessed button you get a number of options to change

Hrs
Minutes
Month
Date
Day....all I would expect then I get more on each press

Lv with options of 1-4 (is this the brightness level of the LEDs?)
0.0 with options of -0.5 to -6.0 and +0.5 to +6.0 (Software Trimmer - is this add or subtract seconds each week or day?)
Menu with a sub menu of the following:
D: EU or D: US - change how month and date are displayed
12h or 24hr
EN, DE or FR (menu language I assume)
+0 or - -

Is this usual for this Frontier module in the Omega Digital 2 or is it from another watch? I have a Hamilton Dress watch with the same module but it does not have these extra options.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 15:51

Here are the pictures of my Hamilton Dress with 1603, Omega Digital 2 with 1603, and Omega Digital 1 with 1602. Anyone know the actual model name of the Hamilton 1603?

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Post20 Oct 2011, 15:51

You have obviously been sold a SASM module.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 16:01

Thanks Ed,

I hadn't realized that Hanno had completed his 1603 SASM module but with all those options it does sound very much what he normally does so he must have finished it.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 16:51

You have bought a non original watch, this one has an modern replacement from strikes and spares.
Whether or not you feel it affects it's value is a personal opinion.
I would prefer, where possible to keep it all original , unless you want to use it as a daily wear.

Ade51 wrote:Well its arrived this afternoon and will post photos shortly. I must say that it looks much better than the photos on Ebay. Only had chance to set the time but noticed when you pressed the recessed button you get a number of options to change

Hrs
Minutes
Month
Date
Day....all I would expect then I get more on each press

Lv with options of 1-4 (is this the brightness level of the LEDs?)
0.0 with options of -0.5 to -6.0 and +0.5 to +6.0 (Software Trimmer - is this add or subtract seconds each week or day?)
Menu with a sub menu of the following:
D: EU or D: US - change how month and date are displayed
12h or 24hr
EN, DE or FR (menu language I assume)
+0 or - -

Is this usual for this Frontier module in the Omega Digital 2 or is it from another watch? I have a Hamilton Dress watch with the same module but it does not have these extra options.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 17:16

Thanks Holly

The seller did not mention that it had a SASM module. I do intend to wear it regularly but I think I will contact the seller to see what he says.
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Post20 Oct 2011, 17:23

Peter Wenzig in Germany has a few at the moment, I am still unsure if they are worth the extra outlay over a pulsar.
Watch this space.............
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Post20 Oct 2011, 20:47

Hanno is now making and shipping 1603 replacement modules as a standard item (he got final finished circuit boards on 17th Sept-I was waiting!). Mine came back a few days later and works flawlessly- if it wasn't for the more modern crystal fitted you would be hard pressed to tell the difference (except for the setting options that pop up as you work through the setting sequence).

Given how mischievious Frontier modules can be I think I prefer the new module in what is essentially a "wearer" watch and knowing I can now get another module if I have a little accident is reassuring.
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Post29 Oct 2011, 23:24

holly35 wrote:Peter Wenzig in Germany has a few at the moment, I am still unsure if they are worth the extra outlay over a pulsar.
Watch this space.............


Hi Holly, I contacted Peter who confirmed that he has 2 Omega Digital 2, 1603's in SS in stock but none in gold. Abe's gold one has gone so I'm still on the hunt for a gold version for a matching set.
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Post30 Oct 2011, 00:52

I have to concur with Tom that these darn Frontier modules seem to be flaky in the most confounding ways.

I was using an (apparently reliable) 1602 module in my 1603 because the 1603 module that came with the watch was inexplicably flaky. Every once in a while it would occasionally start working again and then stop for no apparent reason. It's like it was toying with me - appearing to work every once in a while just to goad me into wasting time fiddling with it.

At one point, it started working perfectly again and so I reinstalled it in the watch, set it and happily wore it for a day thinking that it had sorted itself out. No such luck. I have no idea why it started and no idea why it stopped. After that, it pretty much stopped working and I (mostly) gave up on it but it's the most confounding thing to have a module work one moment and not the next.

I'm quite certain that I will never understand electron herding hardware on a practical level. Kudos to those of you who do.

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Post30 Oct 2011, 19:46

Both the 1602 and 1603 are virtually identical to Hamilton modules - really just different colored plastic and a different small tag. And the Hamilton modules are not (IMO), considered flakey. Or not particularly. But they are finicky to get back together in a good tight fit if the module is opened/ disassembled, since you are relying on 40 year old plastic to hold metal contacts and springs in position against each other....this technique of 4 "bulldog" clips whilst gluing an Omega or Hamilton module back tight has been my favorite. It keeps all pressure on the edges of the circuit board where the contacts actually are, and off the center which can't benefit from any pressure. Snap! :x :cry:

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Post01 Nov 2011, 15:52

To clear some things up... The 1603 is ready and is called SASM52. There´s also a SASM51 available which comes with a different type of display. The manuals aren´t ready, because you are keeping me busy for the next two months. So thanks to all! Next will be the 403 DOW.

I´ve copied ades post...and answer by line..

Lv with options of 1-4 (is this the brightness level of the LEDs?)
No, this displays as LY and stands for leap year. ly=4: means 29th of feb. in this year

0.0 with options of -0.5 to -6.0 and +0.5 to +6.0 (Software Trimmer - is this add or subtract seconds each week or day?)
Per day. Sometimes customers want me to use original quartz crystals, so I need that. I am working on an automatic identification of the uC...

Menu with a sub menu of the following:
D: EU or D: US - change how month and date are displayed
Right. Date can be shown like this: dd:mm or mm:dd

12h or 24hr Nothing to say over here

EN, DE or FR (menu language I assume) No, this is for the DOW: Press button twice to show the date, then hold. DOW can be in English, German or French

+0 or - - These are leading zeros. With +0, your time will show up as 07:00 at 7AM or the date looks like this on march, 1st: 01 03.
In Germany, I would even hand-write a date like this: 01.03.2011, so it annoyed me that these zeros were missing.


Thanks to all of you to be so patient with me. I will write manuals as soon as I have more time, probably during the chrismas holidays.

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Post01 Nov 2011, 18:42

I had the opportunity to see this SASM52 module working in person. It's first-class. Very impressive work Hanno. 8-)
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Post01 Nov 2011, 23:58

Hi Hanno and many thanks for clarifying the various options. I am very pleased with my Omega 1603/SASM52 and how it functions.
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