Omega 1603 Wrong Module

[charger105]

For anyone bidding on the following, contrary to the description, I believe it has the wrong module:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-OMEG ... 27c8029357

The digits look distorted (as though they've got magnifiers), and the DOW on any Frontier modules I've had, do not display with the running seconds alongside.

This listing has rocketed up to nearly $1k based on it being totally original and NOS . It does look NOS, but I'm sure the module is wrong.
Rgds,
Andrew.

[Ade51]

Hi Andrew,

You are right - the look of the digits and their placement do not seem right and do not match the 2 I have however my substrates will have probably changed since they came off production (although they are both identical). Its odd that they have taken the back off to show it but then not taken a picture of the module inside.

The bracelet is also different. On the 8th picture it shows a pin at the link next to the face. Mine do not have that either. Strange

If anyone has bid on this it would be prudent to ask them to show a picture of the module. BTW there was an identical NOS which sold for around $1500 a few weeks ago. I wonder if this is the same watch or the seller has a supply of NOS?

hello . i asked to see the module. the seller just got back told me his camera was broke . but it was original .

[charger105]

I didn't see the other one.
Just looked it up:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... true&rt=nc

He's using the same pictures, so I assume it's the same watch. Perhaps the winner of the previous auction returned it because it had the wrong module ?

[Pauly]

I also thought it was a bit suspect that the seller did not show a pic of the module but only a pic of the back cover removed. Maybe I am just suspicious but I would give this one a very wide berth especially after reading the above.

[Old_timer]

The bracelet is also different. On the 8th picture it shows a pin at the link next to the face. Mine do not have that either.

I'm wondering if there are different variants of the 1250/200 ST bracelet?
Peter Wenzig currently shows a 1603 for sale on Magic Digitals which has the through pin connections at the watch head. Perhaps someone with better knowledge can answer?

Ade51,
if possible would you share a photo of the 1250/200 ST bracelet on your 1603, as a comparison please? Cheers

The ebay item showing the through pin;

[holly35]

This is an easy one......non original "doctored" replacement module.No 1603 has a display like this.

[charger105]

I'm wondering if there are different variants of the 1250/200 ST bracelet?
Peter Wenzig currently shows a 1603 for sale on Magic Digitals which has the through pin connections at the watch head. Perhaps someone with better knowledge can answer?

My SS 1603 does not have the pin either. However my LCD version (similar to the one below) does have the pin:
http://www.retro-watches.co.uk/watches/ ... V10238.htm

Rgds.

[Phasar66]

Not a frontier module on this watch, I notice this before. I looks like the same watch he was selling before
The frontier display is different with a black cover on the PCB only showing the display. everything looks wrong.
Here is a close up on the second picture, same watch for sale on Ebay. ISH.

[Ade51]

Ade51,
if possible would you share a photo of the 1250/200 ST bracelet on your 1603, as a comparison please? Cheers

This is the side of my digital 2

Omega links.jpg

[Phasar66]

Sorry Ade51, I don't have this watch, a friend of mine does. I know for sure his watch does not have the pin on the side
and his watch has the correct module. I ask him to compare with the watch on Ebay the first time it was for sale, I was interested on it.

[retroleds]

I have two of those - no pin thru side.

Beside being ttoo small and pinched, tHe display is too low. With a Frontier module inside the tops of the characters are on a line that is just a hair above the line that the Omega logo(symbol) would be sitting on. His is comparatively far below where it should be. I'd guesstimate 1-1.5mm. I don't think that is seconds showing in "MO 21" that is Monday the 21st. As it would show on a real Frontier (and many others). It could be a Litronix (shudders before getting ill ).

[charger105]

I don't think that is seconds showing in "MO 21" that is Monday the 21st. As it would show on a real Frontier (and many others).

Yes it could be 21st instead of 21s. Frontiers don't display either though. They simply display the DOW on it's own (i.e. just 'MO' in this case).
Rgds.

[Old_timer]

This is the side of my digital 2

That's great Ade51 - thank you for taking the time and sharing the picture - there are definitely two types of 1250/200ST bracelet and it looks like either could be as-original on a cal.1603. I'm surmising that a late production cal.1603 is more likely to have a through-pin style, as per the subsequent cal.1620 LCD.

Cheers

[retroleds]

I don't think that is seconds showing in "MO 21" that is Monday the 21st. As it would show on a real Frontier (and many others).

Yes it could be 21st instead of 21s. Frontiers don't display either though. They simply display the DOW on it's own (i.e. just 'MO' in this case).
Rgds.

.... some of the later Frontiers showed date e.g "WE 4"(DOW & date), then showing "7"(month). Your blue and clear hub Hamilton's almost all fall into that class. Or are those last Hamilton's not Frontier circuits? Something that has never been real clear to me since they are so unmarked.


Darn, I almost went a month..

[Ole Joe]

I don't think that is seconds showing in "MO 21" that is Monday the 21st. As it would show on a real Frontier (and many others).

Yes it could be 21st instead of 21s. Frontiers don't display either though. They simply display the DOW on it's own (i.e. just 'MO' in this case).
Rgds.

.... some of the later Frontiers showed date e.g "WE 4"(DOW & date), then showing "7"(month). Your blue and clear hub Hamilton's almost all fall into that class. Or are those last Hamilton's not Frontier circuits? Something that has never been real clear to me since they are so unmarked.


Darn, I almost went a month..

To my knowledge Frontier never produced an LED module which would show "WE 4" (DOW & date), then "7" (month). It was always "7 4" (month, date), holding would produce "WE" (DOW). This was the same on the 2005, 2006, 2007, 2015 and 2016 modules. Must have been another module manufacture that they used.

[retroleds]

So, no one has a clue who made the Hamilton modules with the blue front & back, clear plastic in between? Hamilton #865? On two presses they show "SA 7" for today, followed by "7" for the month. Well, 3 of them did. #4 showed "SA 7" and on a third press went to seconds. I have to wonder how many variations were made.