It is currently 08 Oct 2025, 00:12


P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Private Sales - NO EBAY
  • Author
  • Message
Offline

Mark A.

Member

Member

  • Posts: 15
  • Joined: 24 Dec 2006, 21:37

P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post08 May 2007, 02:41

Hi.

I was web surfing and came across a listing for a P1 in the Marketplace section of www.oldpulsars.com

I have no involvement with this sale; I thought I'd just pass the information on.

Regards,

Mark A.
Offline
User avatar

bruce wegmann

Pulsar Moderator

Pulsar Moderator

  • Posts: 1310
  • Joined: 02 Aug 2004, 02:13
  • Location: San Diego, CA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post08 May 2007, 04:09

No confirmation as to the validity of the offer. I have communicated with the seller, and they have promised pictures of the watch. Until then, this offer is just words on a monitor screen. Will update if there are any developments [good or bad].
Offline
User avatar

leddwatch

Banned

  • Posts: 94
  • Joined: 01 Feb 2007, 16:19

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post08 May 2007, 23:46

This one was mentioned in an ebay auction for a module recently, Ive got pictures and it looks in fair condition, its untested at the moment and I think its serial number P754571 which makes it one of the latest ever found.
Offline

CompuChron

Techie

Techie

  • Posts: 229
  • Joined: 18 Jan 2004, 03:42
  • Location: paris-france

: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post09 May 2007, 14:33

The lady who sells it has already an offer for 10 000$ ,which didn't accept yet,and told me it lit up with batteries but didn't want to screw it and didn't check if it's properly working.
That's the same lady who sells new modules for P3 .
Offline
User avatar

bruce wegmann

Pulsar Moderator

Pulsar Moderator

  • Posts: 1310
  • Joined: 02 Aug 2004, 02:13
  • Location: San Diego, CA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post09 May 2007, 18:51

I did get two pics of the watch. Definitely real, decent-looking condition. Unfortunately, the pic of the caseback has the clasp draped across it, and it is not possible to accurately read the serial number clearly [the highest known number is 640, so this is far from the highest, assuming your estimate of the number is correct]. I have asked for additional pictures; no reply as of yet. I'm wondering who is willing to pay $10K for this watch now, when a boxed, working one went on eBay last year for $7500...
Offline
User avatar

leddwatch

Banned

  • Posts: 94
  • Joined: 01 Feb 2007, 16:19

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post10 May 2007, 01:52

I didnt say it was the highest produced I said it was 'one of the highest ever found' check your list and tell me how many above 571 on your list.
Offline
User avatar

bruce wegmann

Pulsar Moderator

Pulsar Moderator

  • Posts: 1310
  • Joined: 02 Aug 2004, 02:13
  • Location: San Diego, CA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post10 May 2007, 11:27

I did some additional tweeking of the image of the caseback of this watch and discovered the serial number is actually 521, not 571. The lowest known number is 223, the highest 640. There are seven watches with serials above 521. So it's up there, but far from the highest. The closest other serial is 512. Would have been cool if it had turned out to be consecutive with another P1, but, no such luck. There has been a lot of speculation in the past as to how a run of 400 watches spans a serial number range of almost 420. The numbers make no sense in any traditional context, either in where they start, or stop, although the "P" prefix makes at least some possible sense. There may have been numbers within the original range that were never used, but we will never know for certain which ones those were, since the great majority of the P1s will never be accounted for, most likely having been destroyed in the gold frenzy of 1980, when the price of gold hit US$850 per ounce [I am no longer going to debate this; I have already talked to one jeweler who distinctly remembers scrapping at least one Limited Edition, and I have no doubt this went on all over the country]. At that price, the potential profit [that is, beyond the original purchase price of $2100] in scrapping a P1 was nearly $1100 [a lot of money back then, especially for a watch that was already considered obsolete and unrepairable [and it has been my experience that "sentiment" doesn't hold up well under the pressure of such financial gain]. Indeed, it is quite possible that more than a few WORKING P1s went into the melting pot. In any event, I rejoice in the discovery of another example of this historically significant timepiece.
Offline
User avatar

leddwatch

Banned

  • Posts: 94
  • Joined: 01 Feb 2007, 16:19

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post11 May 2007, 00:38

Im sure you have the same pics as me and I am sure that you are wrong, here is the serial number, if that says 521 then my cocks a kipper.

Image
Offline
User avatar

bruce wegmann

Pulsar Moderator

Pulsar Moderator

  • Posts: 1310
  • Joined: 02 Aug 2004, 02:13
  • Location: San Diego, CA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post11 May 2007, 01:12

Thanks for posting a clearer picture than I had; and making my point for me. Look at the first digit, which is certainly a 7, and compare it closely to the next-to-last. The curvature of the top right of the digit is clearly visible; it would show that only if it were a 0, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, or 0. My conclusion that it is a 2 stands. Opinions, anyone...? I won't comment on the condition of your cock beyond hoping that the deformity is correctible...
Offline
User avatar

retroleds

Guru

Guru

  • Posts: 3634
  • Joined: 04 Feb 2006, 10:34
  • Location: Surrounded by hicks and sticks (farms and woods) - Michigan,USA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post11 May 2007, 01:55

Good eyes Bruce...bet he never mistakes "curves" for "pokers" in a dark bar. :lol:
http://www.retroleds.com - Sales of vintage LED, LCD, analog watches, parts and gadgets - repair tutorials & tips
Nov. 2022 - back in business!! BItter divorce is in home stretch, come grabs some great deals, I had to open the safe . . . damn attorneys. piss.
Offline

redled

Techie

Techie

  • Posts: 235
  • Joined: 24 Jun 2004, 11:56
  • Location: NY

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post12 May 2007, 00:14

What's interesting is the second digit only begins to look like a 2 when you compare it to the first. On it's own it presents much more clearly as a 7. If it were a 2 with the bottom worn off, the bottom termination would not be situated in the geometric center of the figure, it would be placed towards the bottom left corner in order to give the base of the 2 enough room to span the length of the entire figure horizontally.

Since only about 400 of these were supposed to have been made, perhaps it's possible that the first set of figures were stamped by the case manufacturer and the second set, the last three digits, were stamped by whomever assembled the watches, using a different style font for the figures. So that we have two distinct styles of 7 stamped at different times using different equipment.
Offline
User avatar

retroleds

Guru

Guru

  • Posts: 3634
  • Joined: 04 Feb 2006, 10:34
  • Location: Surrounded by hicks and sticks (farms and woods) - Michigan,USA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post12 May 2007, 03:37

If I buy it(not likely) I'll clear up the mystery on the serial number :lol:
http://www.retroleds.com - Sales of vintage LED, LCD, analog watches, parts and gadgets - repair tutorials & tips
Nov. 2022 - back in business!! BItter divorce is in home stretch, come grabs some great deals, I had to open the safe . . . damn attorneys. piss.
Offline
User avatar

bruce wegmann

Pulsar Moderator

Pulsar Moderator

  • Posts: 1310
  • Joined: 02 Aug 2004, 02:13
  • Location: San Diego, CA

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post12 May 2007, 19:14

The only thing wrong with this theory is that on one of my P1s [754542], the pairs of the 5s and 4s are identical. Especially looking under a microscope, it is clear the same punch was used in both sets of digits. And if you look closely, the flat bottom of the "2" is there in the picture [no flat bottoms on 7s in any digit font I'm aware of]. It's interesting that on a P2 I have [57064], the size, shape, and style of the 4, 5, and 7, also match the P1. There are three P1s out there that have a 7 in the second three digits; if we could prevail on one or more of those owners to take a quick look, I'm sure they would discover the digits match. There's nothing to subsitute actually having the watch in your hand to examine. Nothing so far fails to support the conclusion that all numbering was done in one operation, with a single set of punches.
Offline

CompuChron

Techie

Techie

  • Posts: 229
  • Joined: 18 Jan 2004, 03:42
  • Location: paris-france

: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post12 May 2007, 21:21

For me it's a 7 quite clearly.
Last edited by CompuChron on 25 May 2007, 15:06, edited 1 time in total.
Offline

Lordpulsar

Techie

Techie

  • Posts: 118
  • Joined: 04 Jun 2004, 19:22

re: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post25 May 2007, 14:51

Congratulations to Leddwatch and all those who said "7" I got an email from the seller ! I suggest those who got it wrong, invest in a bigger monitor !
Offline

CompuChron

Techie

Techie

  • Posts: 229
  • Joined: 18 Jan 2004, 03:42
  • Location: paris-france

: P1 For Sale at OldPulsars

Post25 May 2007, 15:07

That's true I edited my previous message and transform the 2 in 7 , I didn't want to look too stupid...

Return to For Sale

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests