Help - Dilemma regarding DWF member - poor repair- advise?

[funkyguy]

Hi all

Ive been a member here for a few years and ive traded and bought led watches and watch parts from various members.

My dilemma, one particular prolific member of DWF ive have bought from over the years and without issues,
However resently i requested this member to take a look at 3 modules and give me a health check on them, repair possiblitles etc.
( the modules was without there cases, all posted and packaged fine)

He stated two modules were shot, one was repairable, i asked him to go ahead with the repair (repalcement quartz crsytal).

The module arrived , i placed it to one side (unopened packaging)
A few days later i placed it in the case, it worked but with faults.
The hours would not set or progress past "0" or "1" the minutes and date set ok. i sent him this message

"hey ___

i put the uranus model (you repaired quartz) into the case today.

the hour does not set or change, other than "0" & "1"
the seconds are fine, the date and minutes are fine?

advise?

cheers

fg "

He replied.

"None whatsoever. All things considered, those are some crap modules...and that one was brought back from the edge of death. It appeared to function and set."[/b]

Iam sad he didnt evan offer to take a further look at the module?
ive bought a few items from him and iam unhappy to state his name on the DWF forum, but what else can i do?

any advise would be great.

cheers
FG

[retroleds]

Geoff:
I might have been short about it (what more could I say), but I honestly didn't think I could make anything out of that module. No substantial repairs were made to the piece and no charges were made AFAIR - we bundled the shipping and all with a bunch of parts. I thought I had been quite flexible and willing to dig for whatever parts and such you needed. I know you are disappointed that those pieces didn't go anywhere, but I didn't create that crap shoot - I frequently die in the exact same game. And I have been quite up-front with everybody that I am getting out of repairs for the public - this is a classic example of why. I can't throw unlimited time at a piece like a dedicated owner or hobbyist. I didn't father those watches - no reason to throw me under the bus.

I still like dealing with you and don't really take great umbrage at this post - I understand you were/are disappointed. I'll bet I've had $40-50k of those losses in the last 7-8 years....this activity is based on want, not need.

Peace,
Ed

[retroleds]

Getting slogged on Christmas Eve. - priceless.

Not really taking this personally (ok, a hair)..... I'll blame the possibility of holiday stress combined with holiday cheers. For both of us.
!

[retroleds]

The hours would not set or progress past "0" or "1" the minutes and date set ok.

Sooo, obviously the ticker is ticking, and it has a problem in the brain. I don't know of anyone capable of doing repair on the IC chip itself. It may require you to hold both buttons down. They are an eccentric, highly misunderstood item. I feel their pain.

[azimuth_pl]

Funkyguy,
electronic devices have a mind of their own.
Even when somebody gives it a try with a dead module and they jump back to life, including a quartz replacement, and they are then sent as working...such modules might die out before arrival.
Judging by your story you were happy with earlier services hence I would not suddenly become disappointed with such an occurance with 3 Uranus modules. The late ones were not top quality unlike the early ones.
You can always ask some guys in Europe to help you out but don't expect miracles. I understand that once a positive repair message has been sent it might be a surprise for a repaired module to arrive as non-working.
That's life especially if you collect electronic devices, they will not last forever so diversify your portfolio while you can :)

[funkyguy]

Funkyguy,
electronic devices have a mind of their own.
Even when somebody gives it a try with a dead module and they jump back to life, including a quartz replacement, and they are then sent as working...such modules might die out before arrival. I understand that once a positive repair message has been sent it might be a surprise for a repaired module to arrive as non-working.
That's life especially if you collect electronic devices, they will not last forever so diversify your portfolio while you can :)

Cheers azimuth for response. Yes ive collected led watches since 2007
And fully aware of there problems.

The issue is with Ed canterellas aka retroleds , poor and changable attitude.
After dealing with him for a couple of years and putting up with ever changing mood swings.
This was the last straw. I as others got got sick of humouring him especially as at that time he
Had control of this dwf site.

Anyway its history now ... I would'nt reccomend him or use his service ever again
And when asked, i will tell others of my experiences of this trader.
Which after all this is part of this websites purpose, to share information and pass on
Advise and or experiences.

FG

[retroleds]

Funkyguy,
electronic devices have a mind of their own.
Even when somebody gives it a try with a dead module and they jump back to life, including a quartz replacement, and they are then sent as working...such modules might die out before arrival.
Judging by your story you were happy with earlier services hence I would not suddenly become disappointed with such an occurance with 3 Uranus modules. The late ones were not top quality unlike the early ones.
You can always ask some guys in Europe to help you out but don't expect miracles. I understand that once a positive repair message has been sent it might be a surprise for a repaired module to arrive as non-working.
That's life especially if you collect electronic devices, they will not last forever so diversify your portfolio while you can :)

Thank you Piotr - this was my very dilemma. Many don't understand that none of us can go in there and work on the actual "Brain"(IC) of a module, really just all the supporting bits around it. WHich often amounts to quite a bit, depending on the particular design. In a Pulsar we have segment display transistors, light sensor, quartz crystal, reed switches and the entire display that can be removed/replaced. In a brand like the Uranus everything is made part of the board - not many repair options. The original poster was also disappointed that I backed out of Frankensteining one of the Uranus' for him - I made the promise before having a case in hand. I thought it was more professional to beg off the work if my heart wasn't in it, for whatever reason. Then getting lambasted 6-7 weeks later - whatever.

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