Hey big spender...

[PG101]

Thanks For someone who doesn't delete much, there sure was a lot of deleting going on...

The Seiko's are nice, but honestly I'm surprised that there isn't more interest in the Orient calculators! I really didn't want to get rid of them

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"the seiko's are nice"

thats got to be the understatement of the year

[Kasper]

The Seiko 0524 is even more beautiful.. sixties style, futuristic UFO design with daring front buttons. Speechless...I will keep on dreaming and hoping I will ever have one in my own hands
I like the Orient as well, stylish full metal. No wonder Seiko took Orient over... they were afraid Orient was getting to big.

[elceedee]

Yeah, I noticed this one too when it was still up, but didn't bother to follow.
If all were working, OK. But I remember this guy saying things like 'after sale, I will send some pictures of the watches with a loaded battery' etc .. Pointless and very vague, considering the asking price
I made a quick calculation and ended around +-2000 / 2500 (MAX) with the description as stated in the listing
A very happy seller, im sure

[PG101]

...I made a quick calculation and ended around +-2000 / 2500 (MAX)

Note to the administrators: I'm not trying to offend anyone, so please don't delete this post

I'm sincerely interested to know what you're basing your calculation on? Of course you can base it on whatever you like, but here's a link to a Seiko 0524 (That's 1(one) watch!), that sold for $2025.00, and last year I saw 3 broken Seiko 0614's sell on eBay for +$1000.00 each.
http://www.newdwf.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7311
Are you suggesting the other 12 watches are worth between nothing and $475? I guarantee one Orient LCD calculator watch will sell for $475 without much effort, that's without the broken Seiko 0614.

Anyway, I'd love to hear your break-down on what you thought the watches are worth?

And no, I'm not happy with the price at all, I was hoping for between $9000 - $10000

[elceedee]

Note to the administrators: I'm not trying to offend anyone, so please don't delete this post

I'm sincerely interested to know what you're basing your calculation on? Of course you can base it on whatever you like, but here's a link to a Seiko 0524 (That's 1(one) watch!), that sold for $2025.00, and last year I saw 3 broken Seiko 0614's sell on eBay for +$1000.00 each.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7311
Are you suggesting the other 12 watches are worth between nothing and $475? I guarantee one Orient LCD calculator watch will sell for $475 without much effort, that's without the broken Seiko 0614.

Anyway, I'd love to hear your break-down on what you thought the watches are worth?

And no, I'm not happy with the price at all, I was hoping for between $9000 - $10000

I understand you are the seller. I didn't bother reading most of the posts in this item after I noticed some intervening of the moderator..
Personally I make a huge difference between a fully working sample and a sample with defects when it comes down to the very rare Seiko's (and other brands) as parts or donors are practically impossible to find. You seems to be a collector with technical knowledge(?) and repairing/tinkering skills. My assumption is that if you are selling samples with defects, these are defects beyond repair (my assumption)
These early Seiko's are (again in my opinion) worth a lot when working 100%, and worth a lot less (60-70% less value) when not working 100% (that's, again, my opinion)
Beside that, I would never sell a watch (again, my opinion) on ebay for these prices without pictures showing it in working condition.
But hey, I would never have been the buyer obviously, and you can do as you like with all due respect. Congratulations wit the sale and thanks for the pictures in the other posts above, great samples

[PG101]

I'm not going to discuss my reasons for selling any of these watches, because it's personal, but I will gladly explain some things if I may:
You're right, there is a huge difference between working and non-working rare watches. The early 0614's that sold last year, were all not working, and they sold for over $1000 each, so these are what I based my pricing on, as I consider eBay prices to be quite realistic for broken to average condition watches. Fair enough, mint watches can sell for ridiculous prices off of eBay, to private collectors.

Again, you're partly right about my abilities. I will open a watch and have a look around, but I'm extremely!! limited in my abilities to fix any of the electronics. In fact I have absolutely no skills in electronics, so if I see something that I can't fix, I immediately assume that somebody else really may be able to fix it...BUT I would rather list any problems that I see with the watch, so that anyone interested can make up their own mind (which you clearly did) and bid or not bid accordingly.
This still does not detract from the value of these rare watches, enough to get to the value that you stated at $2000...

I did offer a detailed description of each watch, and what the faults were. There were lots of watchers, and nobody asked any questions, so I assume everyone understood.

I've often had situations where I've received a digital watch (LED or LCD), which was advertised as working, but arrived dead. Most times, I actually trust that people genuinely sent off a working watch, and something happened in transit (post can take up to a month to arrive here!). So I rarely even bother contacting the seller to let them know. These old watches are often fickle, and it's not anyone's fault...saying all this, I know there are some people who would never accept a non-working watch (and rightly so I guess), so I would a thousand times over, rather advertise the fact that the watch is working now, and that I will send a photo at the end of the sale, with the watch next to a current newspaper or equivalent to show it working, but I always stress that I don't guarantee the working condition. And as you said, this is up to the buyer...bid or don't bid, either way I'd rather you be happy and agree to my terms.

But (in my opinion) you seem like someone who knows the value of these rare old Seiko's, so enough said from me.

Regarding the pictures, you're most welcome, and thanks.

[elceedee]

Here is another one of a known forum member, but is it worth it?

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Will probably go for his usual 'best offer accepted' prices, curious what it brings eventually though
Goodluck.