Ancient Citizen crystron (lives again!) And another one :)

[dutchsiberia]

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I bought this one just to have one of those. Very good build quality. Lcd screen is busted though

[Kasper]

http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/14079606320 ... 1423.l2649

thats the one i think.

[Adam]

Great find those early Citizens are seriously underated. Theres more info here

http://www.digitalwatchlibrary.com/DWL/ ... n-60-1136/

Calibre 9010A yours dates from feb 1976. Check out the early citizens on the library. just search 'citizen 1974' etc. We have just made a lot of changes to the Citizen section(Thanks Quietman) so a lot more of the information is there and correct.

Actually im not sure if everything is right I thought the 9010 was an earlier module. I thought this should be a 9011. I think Quietman would know better on this than me.

This what it should look like



Adam

[Old Tom]

Back is for a different watch! Says module 0952 on it hence the disparity in dates.

[dutchsiberia]

same back as on the dwl?

[Adam]

I thought possibly an older module 9010A in a newer watch 9011. I think they will swap over, or they didn't and that's how the lcd panel got damaged

[quietman]

Yes the numbers on the back of Citizens aren't quite as obvious as some other brands. There was a coherent system though - used in analogue and digital through the 60s/70s/80s.....

The long number with the hyphen in it is the CASE number. It usually starts 4-xxxx but sometimes starts with the Cal number - 8943-083504 Y or 9010-095014 Y. Most of the Case Numbers for the earlier 1970s Digital Citizens start 4-095xxx or 4-096xxx - there are exceptions.

The short number with the hyphen in it is the MODEL number with the format xx-xxxx.

The long number without hyphens is the serial number YMMxxxxxxx giving year and month with the first three numbers.

(if you're into analogue Citizens you can usually tell the Cal from the front as they are usually the first four numbers printed on the bottom of the dial - this doesn't follow for numbered panel covers for digitals though....)

The case and strap of your watch is correct ..... 4-095286 / 60-1136 was the 9011A variant. The same case and strap numbered 4-095081 / 60-1110 was sold with the similar 9012A movement. They were the last versions of the 901x watches that I've seen - from 1976.

The broken LC panel is from a 9011A movement. I can't quite tell what the number on the green plastic moulding on the back of the movement is....if it says 9011A then it is correct for the watch....if it says 9010A then the movement is a collection of mismatched bits. The LC panel of the 9011 doesn't have a front polariser stuck to it - there was a seperate one attached to the panel cover ('dial'). If it is missing then you won't be able to tell if there is any life in the movement or not. Changing the faulty mirror would be tricky as its all stuck together onto the back of the panel....

[quietman]

http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/140796063205?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

thats the one i think.

This is the older 9010A ..... pretty sure the strap/clasp aren't original on this one though.

There's also this one .....with the correct strap for the 9010 case but with a grotty dial and later 9011 movement inside......the case is from 1973 though if you like them old.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290744572420? ... 509wt_1132

[dutchsiberia]

Lots of info
The movement is a 9010a and the faceplate has a polarizer. And I'm outbid on the nice one on Ebay with the incorrect bracelet.

[quietman]

Lots of info
The movement is a 9010a and the faceplate has a polarizer. And I'm outbid on the nice one on Ebay with the incorrect bracelet.

The movement for your 1976 watch should be a 9011A so its been changed at some stage. But... the LC panel IS from a 9011A so thats probably been changed over too.....almost looks like the contacts haven't been lined up properly on the top edge of the LC panel

[dutchsiberia]

Hmmmm....
I'll look into it.
Not now, had wine

[Adam]

Almost certainly the best time to work onwtaches hwen ouy have had a coupleof lassges of inew...

Adam

[dutchsiberia]

hehe Today I managed to get a non working part of a digit working on a Orient led touchtron by careful touching the wirebond with a needle, through the protective soft silicon layer. I decided I used up all my luck for today and opened a nice bottle of wine :)

[dutchsiberia]

I got this working citizen for not too much money, very worn case, loose crystal. But a working module, very clean lcd, no rainbow effect!
I decided to put it in the nicer case I already have for the time being. I had to disassemble my new module, because the little time setting cogs inside were misaligned. Now it works again :)
You can turn the module off using the crown, but I have to set the time again after turning it back on, not a very handy feature :(

the ebay citizen





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[vpn]

It's great to see it working again, congrats!

[simone]

Wow friend....well done!
I'm also restoring an ancient citizen from 1973....

[dutchsiberia]

Sometime you bid on something and you don't think you'll win it anyway. Oops...
incoming :)

[vpn]

Awesome! Great catch as always. You always get the good things don't you? Love it!

[dutchsiberia]

thanks :)
I've perfected the art of watching tv, and looking at ebay at the same time. That with having no kids enables me to look at a lót of listings

[quietman]

Its a nice watch and it fits very well in this 'Ancient Crystron' post.....

The model pictured here was the second case style (after the rectangular ones) that was fitted with the 9010A movement. This second 9010A model was quickly replaced by a model using the same case but fitted with the later 9011A movement (http://www.digitalwatchlibrary.com/DWL/ ... -60-10711/) and so is somewhat uncommon.

The 9011 movement has the speckldy mirror versus the 9010s flat grey. But this 9010 case also differs from the 9011 version with different (shinier) printing on the glass and different '9010' part numbers on the back.

So what? Well, all of the rectangular cased 9010s were marked 'Citizen Liquid Crystal'. And whilst there were Analogue 'Crystron' watches (you know, with dials and hands ) , the particular variant of the 9010 pictured here that briefly preceded the more common 9011 watches in the same case would seem to be THE FIRST of all the Citizens that was marked 'Crystron LC'

[dutchsiberia]

cool :)

My rectangular watch also has a speckled mirror lcd, but the 9010 movement. The lcd has probably been changed at some time.

[BENRUS]

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